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	<title>Comments on: Endnote Alternatives</title>
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	<description>geek tools and the scholar</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karnesky</title>
		<link>http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2005/09/14/endnote-alternatives/comment-page-1#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Karnesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Linux Journal just printed a how-to on making &lt;a HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8575" rel="nofollow"&gt;bibliographies in OO.o&lt;/a&gt; (current versions, naturally).  Grabbing citations from a SQL database in Word is quite similar.  I know most darcusblog readers already grok this (and want to improve it), but the article is useful for showing others the current state of affairs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pros: free, collaborative (and works w/ diffferent programs on different platforms), somewhat more flexible (more fields which aren't specific to a single record type), more powerful database on the backend.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cons: more work to setup database/add entries/format bibliography.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux Journal just printed a how-to on making <a HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8575" rel="nofollow">bibliographies in OO.o</a> (current versions, naturally).  Grabbing citations from a SQL database in Word is quite similar.  I know most darcusblog readers already grok this (and want to improve it), but the article is useful for showing others the current state of affairs.</p>

<p>Pros: free, collaborative (and works w/ diffferent programs on different platforms), somewhat more flexible (more fields which aren&#8217;t specific to a single record type), more powerful database on the backend.</p>

<p>Cons: more work to setup database/add entries/format bibliography.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: darcusb</title>
		<link>http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2005/09/14/endnote-alternatives/comment-page-1#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>darcusb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Aron.  Woth a look for Mac users.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've been involved in those threads before.  I still think the market sucks in general, at least for people on the social science and humanities end of the spectrum (me!), who often have to deal wih stuff like legal documents and archival manuscripts.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bookends has a horrid GUI that is straight out of the 1980s, Sente -- while promising -- has a very limited data model, and BibTeX -- while I respect a lot about the community that has grown around it -- is as limited as one would expect of a system designed in the 1980s around TeX.  The BibDesk group are working on some interesting things for v2 which could yield something useful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the grand schema of things, at this moment in time, these aren't really options as far as I'm concerned.  And I see no evidence that Mac productivity developers (including Apple) -- with the possible exception of Omni -- are thinking about the low-level details that will make the sort of improvements we need possible; or at least easier.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, OTOH, if we manage to improve the bib support in OpenOffice along the lines where we're headed, then things start to get really interesting, because the improved support is not just there in the GUI app, but baked into the open file format.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aron.  Woth a look for Mac users.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been involved in those threads before.  I still think the market sucks in general, at least for people on the social science and humanities end of the spectrum (me!), who often have to deal wih stuff like legal documents and archival manuscripts.  </p>

<p>Bookends has a horrid GUI that is straight out of the 1980s, Sente &#8212; while promising &#8212; has a very limited data model, and BibTeX &#8212; while I respect a lot about the community that has grown around it &#8212; is as limited as one would expect of a system designed in the 1980s around TeX.  The BibDesk group are working on some interesting things for v2 which could yield something useful.</p>

<p>In the grand schema of things, at this moment in time, these aren&#8217;t really options as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  And I see no evidence that Mac productivity developers (including Apple) &#8212; with the possible exception of Omni &#8212; are thinking about the low-level details that will make the sort of improvements we need possible; or at least easier.</p>

<p>Now, OTOH, if we manage to improve the bib support in OpenOffice along the lines where we&#8217;re headed, then things start to get really interesting, because the improved support is not just there in the GUI app, but baked into the open file format.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aron Roberts</title>
		<link>http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2005/09/14/endnote-alternatives/comment-page-1#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding â€œbetter alternatives on the Mac," there is a discussion of bibliographic software for Mac OS X, touching upon EndNote, Bookends, Sente, LaTeX and BibTeX, jabref, and BibDesk, in the following MacInTouch Reader Reports compilation:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.macintouch.com/biblio.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding â€œbetter alternatives on the Mac,&#8221; there is a discussion of bibliographic software for Mac OS X, touching upon EndNote, Bookends, Sente, LaTeX and BibTeX, jabref, and BibDesk, in the following MacInTouch Reader Reports compilation:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.macintouch.com/biblio.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.macintouch.com/biblio.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: darcusb</title>
		<link>http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2005/09/14/endnote-alternatives/comment-page-1#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>darcusb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW, there's another problem with Connotea for more general reference management: its data model is designed to handle journal articles, and not much more.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, there&#8217;s another problem with Connotea for more general reference management: its data model is designed to handle journal articles, and not much more.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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